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Qwen3.8-Max vs Kimi K3 vs DeepSeek V4: Open Frontier

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The Short Answer

As of August 2026, the open-weight frontier is a three-way race: Qwen3.8-Max (best coding value, weights week of Aug 10, $2/$6), Kimi K3 (proven agentic model, weights out July 27, $3/$15), and DeepSeek V4 (cheapest and most permissive). Pick by coding value, track record, or cost + license.

Quick Comparison

Qwen3.8-MaxKimi K3DeepSeek V4
VendorAlibabaMoonshotDeepSeek
WeightsWeek of Aug 10, 2026Jul 27, 2026Released
API price (in/out per MTok)$2 / $6$3 / $15Flash $0.14 / $0.28; Pro ~$0.44 / $0.87
LicenseCustom (conditions)More permissiveMost permissive
Best forCoding valueProven agenticCheapest + cleanest license

Qwen3.8-Max — Best Coding Value

Qwen3.8-Max is the first Max-class Qwen released with open weights (week of Aug 10, 2026). Artificial Analysis scored its max config at 57, it tracks Kimi K3 and DeepSeek V4 Flash across most categories, and it’s stronger on coding and software tasks. Hosted at $2/$6 — the best cost-per-capability of the three. Caveat: custom license.

Kimi K3 — Proven Agentic Model

Kimi K3 (weights July 27, 2026) is the established open agentic pick, at $3/$15 flat (no peak/valley surge). Longer track record in production agent stacks and a cleaner license than Qwen3.8-Max. Costs more per token than the other two.

DeepSeek V4 — Cheapest + Cleanest License

DeepSeek V4 is the budget king: Flash at $0.14/$0.28 off-peak, Pro at ~$0.44/$0.87 off-peak — far cheaper than either rival, with the most permissive license. Peak pricing (1–4 & 6–10 UTC) doubles rates, so schedule batch work off-peak.

Which Should You Pick?

  • Best coding + hosted value → Qwen3.8-Max.
  • Proven agentic, simple flat pricing → Kimi K3.
  • Cheapest to run + safest license → DeepSeek V4.

The Reality Check

All three trail the closed frontier (Claude Opus 5, GPT-5.6 Sol) on the hardest agentic tasks — but they’ve closed the gap enough that self-hosting is a real cost play. Choose on license fit first, then price, then coding quality.

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