Qwen3.8-Max vs Kimi K3 vs DeepSeek V4: Open Frontier
The Short Answer
As of August 2026, the open-weight frontier is a three-way race: Qwen3.8-Max (best coding value, weights week of Aug 10, $2/$6), Kimi K3 (proven agentic model, weights out July 27, $3/$15), and DeepSeek V4 (cheapest and most permissive). Pick by coding value, track record, or cost + license.
Quick Comparison
| Qwen3.8-Max | Kimi K3 | DeepSeek V4 | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Vendor | Alibaba | Moonshot | DeepSeek |
| Weights | Week of Aug 10, 2026 | Jul 27, 2026 | Released |
| API price (in/out per MTok) | $2 / $6 | $3 / $15 | Flash $0.14 / $0.28; Pro ~$0.44 / $0.87 |
| License | Custom (conditions) | More permissive | Most permissive |
| Best for | Coding value | Proven agentic | Cheapest + cleanest license |
Qwen3.8-Max — Best Coding Value
Qwen3.8-Max is the first Max-class Qwen released with open weights (week of Aug 10, 2026). Artificial Analysis scored its max config at 57, it tracks Kimi K3 and DeepSeek V4 Flash across most categories, and it’s stronger on coding and software tasks. Hosted at $2/$6 — the best cost-per-capability of the three. Caveat: custom license.
Kimi K3 — Proven Agentic Model
Kimi K3 (weights July 27, 2026) is the established open agentic pick, at $3/$15 flat (no peak/valley surge). Longer track record in production agent stacks and a cleaner license than Qwen3.8-Max. Costs more per token than the other two.
DeepSeek V4 — Cheapest + Cleanest License
DeepSeek V4 is the budget king: Flash at $0.14/$0.28 off-peak, Pro at ~$0.44/$0.87 off-peak — far cheaper than either rival, with the most permissive license. Peak pricing (1–4 & 6–10 UTC) doubles rates, so schedule batch work off-peak.
Which Should You Pick?
- Best coding + hosted value → Qwen3.8-Max.
- Proven agentic, simple flat pricing → Kimi K3.
- Cheapest to run + safest license → DeepSeek V4.
The Reality Check
All three trail the closed frontier (Claude Opus 5, GPT-5.6 Sol) on the hardest agentic tasks — but they’ve closed the gap enough that self-hosting is a real cost play. Choose on license fit first, then price, then coding quality.
Sources
- OrcaRouter — Qwen 3.8 vs Kimi K3 (GA Aug 3, $2/$6 vs $3/$15): orcarouter.ai
- Qubrid AI — Kimi K3 vs Qwen3.8-Max full comparison: qubrid.com
- DeepSeek — API pricing: api-docs.deepseek.com